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PHAT vs Push/Pull/Legs Routine ?? Who wins !7309

FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
Looking to change my program at the moment.

Doing a 5 day bodybuilding split at the mo.. all hypertrophy work.

Want to try either PHAT or push/pull/legs.

If u've tried either or even BOTH... let me know what u thought and which u felt u got most progress in terms of BUILDING MUSCLE more so than strength.

Thanks Guys !!!
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
Did PHAT for like 8 months. Tried Legs/Push/Pull for one whole month and did not like going from push to pull (2 upper body workouts in a row). PHAT is king. Back on it 4life
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Ramses private msg quote post Address this user
Im currently on push/pull/legs and i love it. Im doing 3 work outs hypertrophy then 3 for strength. Been making gains every single week, but i must admit the push days are a pain if you dont have a workout partner. Its been my favorite split but i guess i havent tried PHAT so im in no position to comment on the differences between the two.
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
Cool.. so thats one each. @Ramses i like that idea of strength(push/pull/Legs then Hypertrophy (p/p/l).. Nice. I have heard people saying if ur going to repeat a program in the same week u gotta change at least one variable and u've gone for reps.

@SRorhrbac0808 I know what u mean when u say putting chest and back.. back to back essentially can be taxing.. maybe push/legs/pull could've worked better for u unless that wasnt an option... i really like d idea of PHAT.. having strength and hypertrophy in the same week.

Obvioulsy ur diff muscles are composed of some fast twitch and some slow.. that program or the suggestion @ramses stated would fire both up.
Great stuff guys keep them coming.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
Yah bud. If your going to do L/P/P I would DEFF keep volume as low as possible. Like less then 20 sets, I preferred about 15-16 sets. I also did like @ramses and did 3 power, off, 3 hyper, off repeat. But I made sure that I incorporated de-loads as I do with any program. De-loads were a must for me on l/p/p. and phat to hhaha
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brian12 private msg quote post Address this user
@FiremanSi

If you do Push Pull Legs and you find you don't like two upper body sessions in a row then do it like Push, Legs, Pull, Rest, Repeat
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
^that could work. Only think I wouldn't like is doing Deadlifts on leg day and having to do back the day after.

haha Nit picking but I would do Pull/Legs/Push. Just my opinion :p
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
I too have been thinking about trying L/P/P just for the fact that school takes up so much time and it's hard to get in there 4-5 days a week. I'm going to be doing some researching and weigh out the pros and cons over the next couple weeks.
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pandasashi private msg quote post Address this user
ive been in the same dilema...dont know which direction to take... bottom line, if ur nutrition is right and u kill it in the gym, you will see results.. both good programs
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eventheodds1 private msg quote post Address this user
I did PHAT for 19 weeks. My progress was insane. It truly taught me how to lift heavy on power days. I would not be where I am w/o PHAT.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
soooooo. PHAT IS KING!!! WOOOOOOOOOOO!
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
PHAT.. Ive just started Phat and i love it.
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Ramses private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by SRorhrbac0808
Yah bud. If your going to do L/P/P I would DEFF keep volume as low as possible. Like less then 20 sets, I preferred about 15-16 sets. I also did like @ramses and did 3 power, off, 3 hyper, off repeat. But I made sure that I incorporated de-loads as I do with any program. De-loads were a must for me on l/p/p. and phat to hhaha


defiantly this. on hypo days for me its about 16 sets, strength days its more like 12-15.

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Originally Posted by FiremanSi
Cool.. so thats one each. @Ramses i like that idea of strength(push/pull/Legs then Hypertrophy (p/p/l).. Nice. I have heard people saying if ur going to repeat a program in the same week u gotta change at least one variable and u've gone for reps.

also change some exercises on the days as well. just to keep things interesting.
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david12345676 private msg quote post Address this user
both. if you go to the gym you win.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
^trueeeee sheiiiit.
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ryzymillzy private msg quote post Address this user
pull A
push A
legs A
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pull B
Push B
legs B

for me... i have no problems going from pull to push, no more than 21 sets each work out. Exercises are obv different in A and B workouts.
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AverageJoe private msg quote post Address this user
just started Wendler 5/3/1 with a P/P/L pattern and hypertrophy auxiliary exercices like Ogus did! this is the shit imo
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
Some seriously great advice here.

@alexmuller reckons P/P/L is best for hypertrophy and developing weaknesses & PHAT was best for developing strength gains.

Now if u know this guy he's a BEAST.. so i think i'm swayin to P/P/L for now but its GREAT to know i have a new program to try after that in PHAT.. Can't wait to try both 2013 is gonna be full of ALL KINDS OF GAINS. Might make the first 3days of P/P/L.. slightly diff than the second 3. e.g. strength 3 and hypertrophy 3 or tinker with the exercises and keep it all hypertrophy.
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ryzymillzy private msg quote post Address this user
^ thats what i do, its all hypertrophy rep ranges just different exercises trying to up reps or weight every week.
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alexmuller private msg quote post Address this user
PHAT made me strong as hell, L/P/P has given me crazy size gains!!
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