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Originally Posted by golagola
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does shoulder press work the chest too ?
after day (back and shoulder) i feel like my chest has worked too ,even worked hard .


Chest can be secondary when doing should press. Your form might be off too.

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Originally Posted by bslo
Then why does my upper chest feel more pumped up after incline than flat or decline...........


Do you do upper chest more than flat or decline? If you do you should try changing to flat or declines and see what happens after a month or two.
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@haole no i dont i do primarily flat bb bench press and then do incline hammer strength or dbs for accessory work. I agree that flat bench is without a doubt the best way to build a big chest and i create my workour around that i cannot deny that if i start my chest workout with incline for shits and giggles then i will feel a pump more in my upper chest.
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Really? How exactly does one feel a pump in half of a muscle? When you do curls, do you ever feel a pump in just the portion of your biceps closest to the elbow? When you do chins do you ever feel a pump in just the lower portion of your lats?

The notion that you can feel a pump in only part of ONE muscle is the greatest bit of broscience I've seen in quite a while. -3X
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Im not saying that I only feel a pump in one part of the muscle but I def do feel bigger in the upper portion after incline. Im pretty sure im not the first person to ever lift weights that does feel this way. Not with chins but if I do say corner bar rows with a close grip depending on the angle I feel it more in the lower lats.
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What your feeling is a pump in the entire muscle. Your brain is interpreting it as something different. Neurological feedback is not a particularly good indicator of muscle fiber recruitment.

Gee, if only there was some way to objectively measure where and how hard the fibers of a muscle contract under different circumstances...

http://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2013/04/03/bench-press-emg-activity/

-3X
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@haole

ty man ,i think if there are emg for shoulder press we will see more activate muscle in the chest than we think .....
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@eknight Thankyou for answering my question.
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What your feeling is a pump in the entire muscle. Your brain is interpreting it as something different. Neurological feedback is not a particularly good indicator of muscle fiber recruitment.

Gee, if only there was some way to objectively measure where and how hard the fibers of a muscle contract under different circumstances...

http://www.strengthandconditioningresearch.com/2013/04/03/bench-press-emg-activity/

-3X


Great link. Thanks^^

I actually never do incline press (just feels awkwardand unstable). Flat DB and BB and floor presses are my go to.
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The guy in the video is not saying that the muscle on uses the fibers running in the same direction as the movement, and I agree with your quad example. He's saying that the muscle can either contract or not contract at all, that the angle of the movement puts the fibers at a greater position. The muscle is still all contracting together, as you are saying, but there is a greater workload from the upper portions.
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And the EMG data explicitly shows that this is not the case. -3X
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A muscle either contracts as a whole or not at all....what's so confusing about that? A 3rd grader could comprehend this..
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Contract your chest and put your hand on it, now raise it through the various angles and tell me you don't notice a difference.
At the end of the day regardless of what the research says, of something works, it works. Not too long ago "research" showed that eating 6 more frequent meals would stoke your metabolism.

@nine0seven I think you have this mistaken, the argument is not whether or not you can contract different parts of the muscle. The face that the muscle contracts as a whole or not at all is not what is at dispute here.
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Contract your chest and put your hand on it, now raise it through the various angles and tell me you don't notice a difference.


No, once my humerus is adducted, moving it up and down does not create more of a contraction at various points.


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At the end of the day regardless of what the research says, of something works, it works. Not too long ago "research" showed that eating 6 more frequent meals would stoke your metabolism.


Actually, no, the research NEVER said that. People on internet chat boards like this said it, and just like the argument you're trying to make here, they were wrong. -3X
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Why is this conversation even happening? Brb gonna go do incline bicep curls to hit the upper portion of my bicep.
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In for @_RudeCrew having swole af upper bi's.
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