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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
So I've recently learned that incline doesnt target the upper chest more than flat bench(one study showed tho), but rather targets the lower chest LESS. Showed in multiple EKG measurement-studies or whatever its called. So... there's that.
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sickrykes private msg quote post Address this user
think their was a solid month or two where every thread was about that..
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MrMailliw private msg quote post Address this user
Next you will be telling us the world didn't end on 21st December 2012 :P
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
Or Glutamine's Bad !!
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Nyko private msg quote post Address this user
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Next you will be telling us the world didn't end on 21st December 2012 :P


^ LOL This
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Markovich private msg quote post Address this user
=)
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Wonder why these "studies" were not cited or linked? Probably because the difference was about 2%. -3X
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Markovich private msg quote post Address this user
EK:
Can you target the pectoralis minor less, when doing decline benchpress?
You said it was one big muscle and work together all the time..?
My thought is no, but not sure =)
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The pectoralis minor is a different muscle. -3X
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Markovich private msg quote post Address this user
So it can't target the lower chest less
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I'm not sure of what you're asking. The pec minor doesn't work as a mover. It is a fixator for the scapula and clavicle. The major is the one that actually addicts the humerus. -3X
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Markovich private msg quote post Address this user
So basivally the chest or the pec is one muscle? whenever a bodybuilder or weightlifter talks about chest workouts. It's only one muscle, so when you do a incline press, you dont use your "lower chest" less.
Just read my last posts and sorry for the confusion!
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Thedude67 private msg quote post Address this user
@eknight What are the benefits of incline bench vs flat bench? Not trolling...
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eknight private msg quote post Address this user
Variety. Greater front delt recruitment. Genetics dictates the shape of your chest. You can build a well-developed and proportioned chest doing nothing but flat presses. -3X
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Am surprised by this, I always feel the upper part of my pecs under the clavicle are worked harder with a few sets of incline (in addition to front delts taking some heat).

Can anyone link to the articles for the uninitiated?
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Originally Posted by catstrat
Am surprised by this, I always feel the upper part of my pecs under the clavicle are worked harder with a few sets of incline (in addition to front delts taking some heat).

Can anyone link to the articles for the uninitiated?


The search function on this site is your friend.

@EK has Linked roughly 81264 Studies Supporting these statements.
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
No, not 2-3%. As in, when doing high inclines, or military press, it doesn't activate your lower pecs at all almost.
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
not saying that doing inclines is better for upper chest or anything, since all it does is work your lower chest less, while flat bench works all your chest together with flyes and so forth, so the only way you'd ever notice a difference would be by stop working chest all together except for military press and high inclines, which is stupid.
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I'm not sure of what you're asking. The pec minor doesn't work as a mover. It is a fixator for the scapula and clavicle. The major is the one that actually addicts the humerus. -3X


the pec minor doesn't attach to the clavicle,so it doesn't fixate it.
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^^ lol nice catch. I realized that I typed clavicle when I meant ribs, but it was too late to edit it.

@Cannonball- still awaiting links to the studies? -3X
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Massthetics private msg quote post Address this user
if incline didnt putt mass on my upper chest then i dont know what did...
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
@Massthetics making your chest big and adding mass to it filled your upper chest even only doing flat.
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Massthetics private msg quote post Address this user
personally i think it was dumbbells on the incline but thats just me.
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Markovich private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Cannonball
No, not 2-3%. As in, when doing high inclines, or military press, it doesn't activate your lower pecs at all almost.


If you use your chest, you use all of it, you don't use your "lower" any less
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Originally Posted by Markovich
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Originally Posted by Cannonball
No, not 2-3%. As in, when doing high inclines, or military press, it doesn't activate your lower pecs at all almost.


If you use your chest, you use all of it, you don't use your "lower" any less
agree
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
Trying to tell your general gym person that you cant target upper chest and why is such a hard task in it self I dont bother anymore
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AustralianOak private msg quote post Address this user
Although sometimes good old Arnie isn't the best example for training (still love him), he is cited for having one of the best ever chests and his routine went like this:

Bench Press
Incline Bench Press
Dips
Pullovers
Cable Crossovers
Flyes

He had a huge upper chest simply by doing these so called "middle chest" or lower chest movements.

Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by AustralianOak
Although sometimes good old Arnie isn't the best example for training (still love him), he is cited for having one of the best ever chests and his routine went like this:

Bench Press
Incline Bench Press
Dips
Pullovers
Cable Crossovers
Flyes

He had a huge upper chest simply by doing these so called "middle chest" or lower chest movements.

Thoughts?


Genetics
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Completely agree, genetics. Trying to make your own body look like a pros is like trying to be as fast as an Olympic sprinter by following their training program- it'll never happen. You'll be as fast as your own genetics allow you to be, but you're not getting good medals any time soon. -3X
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
I've asked for links to the studies. Don't know how it's so hard to believe; trapz are also a single muscle where one part can be excluded from another, same with pecs. I know it's feather-shaped, but for it to fully engage in a miltary press while in a neutral position would be counter-productive.
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