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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
How do you do your Bench press to isolate you chest?.

1. Do you do full rep or partial rep range?
2. Does the bar touches your chest or you leave 1 inch when you drop the bar?
3. The Bar on chest press must be higher than the nipple or you prefer doing Neck presses were the bar is almost on the neck?.
4. If you doing db press, do you do larry scott advice that the pingky must be higher than the thumb when you press the bar.
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In4gainZ private msg quote post Address this user
Answer : use dumbbells.
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Ben777 private msg quote post Address this user
The "powerlifting" style of bench isolates the chest more than the usual "bodybuilder" style. Stops injury too. I'm on my phone so can't link but plenty of helpful vids on YouTube. EK has a huge amount of knowledge in this area too.
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In4gainZ private msg quote post Address this user
Less impact on the shoulder rotator and more focus one the chest, right. Still dumbbells are easier to manage and got a better ROM and stretch potential than bbbench especially the PL style.
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Ben777 private msg quote post Address this user
Dumbbells easier to manage? What planet you living on trollbrah?
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
Barbell- If the weight is heavy, you will need a spot or else your doomed.. hehe.. Dumbbells are free weight, so it actually isolate the chest more and easy to drop when your muscle is fatigue.
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Ben777 private msg quote post Address this user
Barbell is also free weight
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NJA82 private msg quote post Address this user
I would imagine partial reps going from just before touching the chest to just before full lockout with either DB`s or the BB would put a lot of stress on the pecs...

Dumbbell flyes pretty much are one of the only free weight exercises that isolates the pecs with very little tricep and shoulder involvement but are risky going heavy on these.

Any type of flat bench pressing movement is putting stress on the rotator cuffs, Military press believe it or not is much more rotator friendly than any kind of flat bench press but is not going to directly grow your chest. It is a good assistance movement for chest though.
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In4gainZ private msg quote post Address this user
Ben, you got a permission to talk again after a new politics controversy starts over. PS fuck Obama.
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Ben777 private msg quote post Address this user
I4G, you do not have permission to talk as you cannot construct a legible sentence
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
Scapular back
Elbows in
Chest out
arch in lower back (optional)
IMO full range of motion for everything but to each is own
-ill touch chest and lock out every rep
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Dukenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Don't be a pussy and touch your chest every rep. Partials are far over rated, 85% of the world can't bench correctly anyways.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
^yah. I touch my chest every rep. Jesus Christ I see ppl hardly goin 90 degrees with weight they can't handle LOL come on nowwww
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eknight private msg quote post Address this user
Using partials on the bench (actual paritals, not floor presses or board presses) is a shoulder injury in the making and should not be advised. FWIW, you can't "isolate" the chest by bench pressing anyway. It's a compound movement. @SRorhrbac0808 has you covered. -3X
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
Appreciate the replies guys. I opened up this topic because there are a lot of people even with years of working out still doing shitty form of exercise especially bench Presses.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
^yeah your telling me man... I see it all the time. hhahah I just let it ride and do my thang.

I'm not saying I'm a god when it comes to form because I am sure there are things I could work on.... But damn. Have some self respect to do what is right for ones body and perform the exercise the way it is meant to be. Injuries happen by not properly warming up and handling weight that is completely unnecessary or HUGE progressive overloads that the individual is incapable ATM.

Older we get, the wiser we become hahaha. I used to throw shit around probably looking like an idiot all the time LOL... Few injuries later BOOM... Form > Weight 24/7
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
In my little world it's not a bench press unless you touch your chest. No half assing allowed.
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
^could have not said that more beautiful sir. REally grinds my gears seeing half assing in the world.
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Bro, I'm training my forearms with bench, it's the next big thing!
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
OH MAN!!!! That is pure epicness. haha
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Baha, what grinds my gears is seeing "personal trainers" teach people to bench half reps. It's just a "Bro, wtf are you doin'?!?" moment. Ugh, I could teach people 20x better than some of the trainers I see at my Uni gym, but no, I'm not "certified" so I can't. Poo on them.
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
Form is 1st, weight is 2nd and then here comes the boom.. hehe
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jonrivs49 private msg quote post Address this user
What can you say about this video?.. Brandon Recommends partial reps to build thick chest.
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What can you say about this video?.. Brandon Recommends partial reps to build thick chest.


Partials aren't how he's building dat chest.

In any case, it doesn't take away from the fact that it'll destroy your shoulders.
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In4gainZ private msg quote post Address this user
Any movement that is not performed in full ROM DESTROYS the joints, bbbench, squat what ever is it, this is a pure physic principle, if you perform a set and stop the movement before you reach full ROM, then you are making unnatural movement whice leads to unnatural negative scenarios. Next time you perform a set of OHP,BBBench or squats you better reconsider your form. Just to make that point clear, when going on fucking heavy weights 3RM and bellow, nobody is expecting from you to a perfect form, but there is still a big difference between good form and the correct WAY to lift, and the number one rule is full ROM. Quality over quantity - I would prefer to make a solid ATG or ATLEAST bellow parallel with 550 lbs on me, then a fucking 900 for quarter rep. It's just like you would prefer a full fuck with a beautiful chick than being in the playboy mansion and get only kisses and handjob.
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What can you say about this video?.. Brandon Recommends partial reps to build thick chest.


LOL I didn't watch this vid.... But I am assuming he is using partial reps. What you MUST understand is that shit that works for some, won't for others. ALSO, how in the world are you going to compare a PRO athlete to one of us hahaha I mean srs. Did it every occur to you that their mind/muscle connections are out of this world. Why do you think when you watch Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Branch Warran train their form looks like COMPLETE shit and goes against everything in the field of biomechanics... WELL their able to get away with that because they have been using their mind/muscle connection since like 12 years old. LOL they can take a shit and grow their traps.... Food for thought
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SwoleAnimal private msg quote post Address this user
My buddy who is training to become a personal trainer relayed to me that his instructor told him that arching the lower back actually caused injury. Have you guys heard this before? I've always arched.
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Nyko private msg quote post Address this user
I've cramped up a hammy forcing too much arch into my back during a bench before. (cool story bro) No but srs. I think there is a middle ground that is effective.
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What can you say about this video?.. Brandon Recommends partial reps to build thick chest.


LOL I didn't watch this vid.... But I am assuming he is using partial reps. What you MUST understand is that shit that works for some, won't for others. ALSO, how in the world are you going to compare a PRO athlete to one of us hahaha I mean srs. Did it every occur to you that their mind/muscle connections are out of this world. Why do you think when you watch Jay Cutler, Ronnie Coleman, Branch Warran train their form looks like COMPLETE shit and goes against everything in the field of biomechanics... WELL their able to get away with that because they have been using their mind/muscle connection since like 12 years old. LOL they can take a shit and grow their traps.... Food for thought
Understood that there are exercises that wont work for some and there are already pro athletes with good genetics that takes anabolic shits. But if you watched the vid. His idea behind chest workout. He recommends that doing partial rep is better thats why people with short arms have great chest..
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
Hey, as long as the individual performing the workout routine/exercise believes it is working for them. Then 99% of the time it is working because they believe. If he believes partials are working, then there working If I believe full ROM is working form me, then it's working.

There is no black/white in the sport of bodybuilding. THere is A LOT of gray area. SOME areas are obvious black/white.. MOST are gray. With that being said, best not to go to the gym and notice someone doing something completely wrong and make assumptions, because in some cases they could be doing it right and your the jack ass :p
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