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with almost every chest exercise I do, I can feel it in the lower part of the red bit in the picture, the opposite side of the elbow. this always gives out before my chest does and it's starting to really bug me.

I've tried retracting shoulder blades, doing that mind body thing and tried focussing on contracting my pecs throughout the movement but none of that has seemed to work.

does anyone have any ideas on how to correct this?
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i think your doing it wrong.
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LOL are you sure its not just in ur head?
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LOL are you sure its not just in ur head?
yes.
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So?..... Your triceps??
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So?..... Your triceps??

pretty much that region.
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lol umm.. You shouldn't feel anything there, and you really shouldn't feel much in your tricep either; unless you're doing close grip.. Maybe you have a pulled muscle there or something..
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What is your split?
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lol umm.. You shouldn't feel anything there, and you really shouldn't feel much in your tricep either; unless you're doing close grip.. Maybe you have a pulled muscle there or something..
happens in both arms so I don't think it would be cause I've pulled something?

I do delts / biceps and then chest / triceps the next day.
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Ok, then you're probably feeling the whatever in your biceps cause you just worked them the day before. Maybe you worked them to hard or didn't stretch good enough. Seriously you shouldn't feel anything there while bench pressing
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you should do chest/triceps/delts one day then do biceps/back/forearms 2 days later
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Ok, then you're probably feeling the whatever in your biceps cause you just worked them the day before. Maybe you worked them to hard or didn't stretch good enough. Seriously you shouldn't feel anything there while bench pressing
oh I had a days break cause the gym was closed yesterday for some reason. thanks for advice I'll try stretching them and see what happens.
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I'd say switch up the days, hit chest/tris first with bis/delts the next. If you want to keep doing bis/delts before chest/tris, I'd give it a day between workouts. Front delts get hammered on chest day, so by doing them before IMO is hindering your chest workout.
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If you want to switch your work out up try this work out i'v been doing this one for about 3 weeks now. Killer work outs.


Monday: Chest, Delts, Triceps workout A
Incline dumbbell press
dips
dumbbell flyes
Seated overhead press
Tricep pulldowns
Smith machine upright rows
One-armed dumbbell overhead extensions
side dumbbell laterals

Tuesday: Legs workout A
ATG squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
leg extensions
lying leg curls
smith-machine lunge
machine calf raises
seated calf raises

Wednesday: Back/Biceps/forearms work out A
Deadlifts
Incline dumbbell rows
lat pulldowns
seated cable rows
hyperextensions
EZ bar curl
incline curls
dumbbell preacher curls
dumbbell wrist curls
Dumbbell wrist extensions

Thursday OFF

Friday: Chest/Delts/Triceps Work out B
Incline smith machine press
dumbbell pullovers
Flat dumbbell press
cable cross overs
seated barbell overhead press
EZ bar lying tricep extension
seated cable rear delt rows
Reverse-grip two-arm cable pressdowns
cable side-laterals

Saturday: legs work out B
Front barbell squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
One-leg extensions
seated leg curls
split-squat
donkey calf raises
hack machine calf raises
reverse calf raises

Sunday: Back/Biceps/forearms Work out B
Deadlifts
Machine rows
wide-grip chin-ups
one-arm rows
lying torso raise
seated alternating dumbbell curls
concentration curls
cable one-arm curls
cable wrist curls
wrist extensions


ALL WORK OUTS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY ARE 6-8 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

ALL WORK OUTS FRIDAY-SUNDAY ARE 10-12 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

CARDIO I DO 3 TIMES A WEEK
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I'd say switch up the days, hit chest/tris first with bis/delts the next. If you want to keep doing bis/delts before chest/tris, I'd give it a day between workouts. Front delts get hammered on chest day, so by doing them before IMO is hindering your chest workout.
I did have a days rest because the gym was closed yesterday, and today was the worst it's been. @ksrcrider thanks man might look into it.
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biceps act as stabilizers in pressing movements I believe.


Also Chest flyes use biceps.
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Originally Posted by ksrcrider
If you want to switch your work out up try this work out i'v been doing this one for about 3 weeks now. Killer work outs.


Monday: Chest, Delts, Triceps workout A
Incline dumbbell press
dips
dumbbell flyes
Seated overhead press
Tricep pulldowns
Smith machine upright rows
One-armed dumbbell overhead extensions
side dumbbell laterals

Tuesday: Legs workout A
ATG squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
leg extensions
lying leg curls
smith-machine lunge
machine calf raises
seated calf raises

Wednesday: Back/Biceps/forearms work out A
Deadlifts
Incline dumbbell rows
lat pulldowns
seated cable rows
hyperextensions
EZ bar curl
incline curls
dumbbell preacher curls
dumbbell wrist curls
Dumbbell wrist extensions

Thursday OFF

Friday: Chest/Delts/Triceps Work out B
Incline smith machine press
dumbbell pullovers
Flat dumbbell press
cable cross overs
seated barbell overhead press
EZ bar lying tricep extension
seated cable rear delt rows
Reverse-grip two-arm cable pressdowns
cable side-laterals

Saturday: legs work out B
Front barbell squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
One-leg extensions
seated leg curls
split-squat
donkey calf raises
hack machine calf raises
reverse calf raises

Sunday: Back/Biceps/forearms Work out B
Deadlifts
Machine rows
wide-grip chin-ups
one-arm rows
lying torso raise
seated alternating dumbbell curls
concentration curls
cable one-arm curls
cable wrist curls
wrist extensions


ALL WORK OUTS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY ARE 6-8 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

ALL WORK OUTS FRIDAY-SUNDAY ARE 10-12 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

CARDIO I DO 3 TIMES A WEEK



no
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Originally Posted by ksrcrider
If you want to switch your work out up try this work out i'v been doing this one for about 3 weeks now. Killer work outs.


Monday: Chest, Delts, Triceps workout A
Incline dumbbell press
dips
dumbbell flyes
Seated overhead press
Tricep pulldowns
Smith machine upright rows
One-armed dumbbell overhead extensions
side dumbbell laterals

Tuesday: Legs workout A
ATG squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
leg extensions
lying leg curls
smith-machine lunge
machine calf raises
seated calf raises

Wednesday: Back/Biceps/forearms work out A
Deadlifts
Incline dumbbell rows
lat pulldowns
seated cable rows
hyperextensions
EZ bar curl
incline curls
dumbbell preacher curls
dumbbell wrist curls
Dumbbell wrist extensions

Thursday OFF

Friday: Chest/Delts/Triceps Work out B
Incline smith machine press
dumbbell pullovers
Flat dumbbell press
cable cross overs
seated barbell overhead press
EZ bar lying tricep extension
seated cable rear delt rows
Reverse-grip two-arm cable pressdowns
cable side-laterals

Saturday: legs work out B
Front barbell squats
Stiff-legged deadlifts
One-leg extensions
seated leg curls
split-squat
donkey calf raises
hack machine calf raises
reverse calf raises

Sunday: Back/Biceps/forearms Work out B
Deadlifts
Machine rows
wide-grip chin-ups
one-arm rows
lying torso raise
seated alternating dumbbell curls
concentration curls
cable one-arm curls
cable wrist curls
wrist extensions


ALL WORK OUTS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY ARE 6-8 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

ALL WORK OUTS FRIDAY-SUNDAY ARE 10-12 REPS... THE AMOUNT OF SETS ARE ON YOU

CARDIO I DO 3 TIMES A WEEK

Worst ever split to give to someone who's feeling fatigued between sessions. "killer workout" wtf are you, a pt?
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ksrcrider, wtf dude?

KFC - do you do alot of flyes? that might be the problem.
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Maybe worst to you, but not to me. Am i a pt? No I'm a normal everyday person. But thanks for asking @igg
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@KFC

Is this problem occuring when your doing Flyes?

If so your probably keeping your arms pretty straight huh?

Just try keeping more of a bend at your elbows through the movement and that should sort u out.
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or switch to pec dec
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Maybe worst to you, but not to me.
but are you in question in this thread?
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I gave him that work out program because maybe his isn't all that great.. None of us here knows how hes lifting as in his form. He may have poor form when lifting, he might not stretch all that much or none at all.. Maybe he doesn't warm up, and instead goes straight to lifting.. The only time I'v ever had a pain in my arm where hes talking about is when I over worked my biceps.

Every forum is the same. Whether it be a car forum, body building, running etc... Everyone can only give out their opinions. When it comes to a noise in a car or him for instances feeling it in his biceps. Its really hard to determine whats going on, cause known of us are there to see whats going on.

Best thing to do in his case is trial and error. Maybe stretch more. If that doesn't work, warm up longer, get all your muscles nice and warmed up. The list can go on..
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wait, so what you're saying is if my car sounds strange doing 50mph, i should just press my accelerator as hard as i can and go to 100+?


I dont really think you know why we are telling KFC not to do the split you posted - the volume of your split is way too much, i do 12-6 sets for chest/back/shoulders/legs every 6 days and you do 20+ every 3 days... like seriously...
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Lol it was a suggestion @igg I'm in the gym 45 min a day. Its really not that insane of a work out program in my eyes. I'm a brick mason, and i work sometimes 7 days a week 60+ hour sometimes. If i can do this program and work like i do, i think other can do it to. He can completely ignore the program I gave him or he can try it. Everyone is different. Like I said to you @igg what works for you might not work for me..

wait, so what you're saying is if my car sounds strange doing 50mph, i should just press my accelerator as hard as i can and go to 100+? THAT WOULD BE JUST STUPID....
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i don't want to sound like a dick, but i probably will - I've seen your thread and grats on loosing so much weight n everything but loosing weight is a lot different to building muscle, now that workout might be working for you and whatever but unless you have genetics of a top bb'er that much volume is really not adequate for someone that trains naturally
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@KFC

Is this problem occuring when your doing Flyes?

If so your probably keeping your arms pretty straight huh?

Just try keeping more of a bend at your elbows through the movement and that should sort u out.
yeah I do flys. I try to keep my elbows bent at least 45degrees throughout. I duno if thats right or not. But it also occurs when doing flat and incline presses, which I do before the flys.
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@igg thanks, but the weight loss part of my transformation was done 5 months ago. I'v been at 183-185 for the past 5 months while still losing fat%. I know this because I get a pinch test done every 3 months by a professional. I think I'v accomplished a lot in a year. I went from fat ass to what I'm now.
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I gave him that work out program because maybe his isn't all that great.. None of us here knows how hes lifting as in his form. He may have poor form when lifting, he might not stretch all that much or none at all.. Maybe he doesn't warm up, and instead goes straight to lifting.. The only time I'v ever had a pain in my arm where hes talking about is when I over worked my biceps.

Every forum is the same. Whether it be a car forum, body building, running etc... Everyone can only give out their opinions. When it comes to a noise in a car or him for instances feeling it in his biceps. Its really hard to determine whats going on, cause known of us are there to see whats going on.

Best thing to do in his case is trial and error. Maybe stretch more. If that doesn't work, warm up longer, get all your muscles nice and warmed up. The list can go on..


So explain to us why he should stretch his biceps?
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