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I asked Menno Henselmans, whom also featured on SS.com.


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Great. After nearly a year of providing clinical research showing this is a fallacy and 100% BS claim that can not be done, and after having another pro on here state that it can't be done, people still want to argue it. Find it hilarious that he states, "there are facts, not opinions" showing flexion of one part independent of the other, but doesn't provide them. Laughable. I don't care what bodybuilder or fitness athletes you ask- they're not medically trained, and thus they are incorrect about these kinds of statements. Next time you talk to him ask him how that's possible with one ONE point of insertion on the humerus, and one nerve supplying energy. Perhaps he can also find a way to squat that individually hits one head of the quad and not the other three. What a joke. -3X
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- Ok thanks EK. I'm just keen on learning everything, and I'm naturally a person with a critical mind. This means I'm also interested in learning things, more than once. But thank you for your input on this! Which I was hoping for.
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Great. After nearly a year of providing clinical research showing this is a fallacy and 100% BS claim that can not be done, and after having another pro on here state that it can't be done, people still want to argue it. Find it hilarious that he states, "there are facts, not opinions" showing flexion of one part independent of the other, but doesn't provide them. Laughable. I don't care what bodybuilder or fitness athletes you ask- they're not medically trained, and thus they are incorrect about these kinds of statements. Next time you talk to him ask him how that's possible with one ONE point of insertion on the humerus, and one nerve supplying energy. Perhaps he can also find a way to squat that individually hits one head of the quad and not the other three. What a joke. -3X


hahaha I LOLd
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im siding with EK again.
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Henselman's response:

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in.
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NorIda private msg quote post Address this user
All I read was flat bench ftw

"Also, the clavicular head of the pectoralis major was no more active during the incline bench press than during the horizontal one, but it was less active during the decline bench press."
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This needed a proper intro.
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when it comes to scientific studies the word "significant" is very misunderstood. If a object weighs 000,11 gram it will wheigh significantly more than object 2 with a weight of 000,10 gram. So even tho the EMG found some differences in muscle activity, the differences might be so small that they wont result in any greater muscle growht of the upper portion of the chest. sorry if my grammar is off =)
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@Maarten the link you/he provided backs what I said, so... What am I missing? -3X
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Like he said "it shows preferential activity of the different heads as a result of trunk inclination and grip width".

Then what are your conclusions on the study?
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It shows chest, shoulder and triceps activation throughout the particular lifts? Not numerous heads of the chest?

Unless I'm reading it incorrectly.
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"The clavicular head of the pectoralis major was more active with a narrow hand spacing. Anterior deltoid activity tended to increase as trunk inclination increased".

Which basically states his claim made earlier.

Once again, I want to learn the right thing, so this is nothing personal.
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That doesn't state his claim at all. He claimed that you can activate the clavicular head "without any movement" of the sternal head. Not possible. Secondly, while the clavicular head is more active, if I recall the full study correctly, the sternal head is also more active. I'm out with the wife, but if you want, when I get home, I'll happily dig up and repost the several studies showing that you cannot activate muscle fibers in one portion of the pectoralis to the exclusion of the rest. -3X
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so... does anyone still do incline?
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I do reverse grip incline occasionally.
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so... does anyone still do incline?


I do inclines with every chest workout. I love them.
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i do incline every other chest workout aswell

and still notice my upper chest filling out from them, also lots of flys to help
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SRorhrbac0808 private msg quote post Address this user
shit..... Ima still do incline and declines
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I still do them as well. They're an absolutely great movement to hit your entire chest- they just aren't going to hit one part without the other. -3X
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^amen to that!! ek for president
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If you go to Google and type in Upper Chest and go to images, there is a condescending Wonka that links back here

PROGRESS HAS NOT BEEN DESTROYED
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This question has always been on my mind. How does decline hit the chest differently than incline/flat? i know it's less shoulder involvement but is there any other benefit..or cons? I recently just started doing declines again.
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If you go to Google and type in Upper Chest and go to images, there is a condescending Wonka that links back here

PROGRESS HAS NOT BEEN DESTROYED


Hysterical! I had to see what you were talking about so I went to google and searched "upper chest". Sure enough:


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so... does anyone still do incline?


I do inclines with every chest workout. I love them.


TSG has me doing some sort of incline 2x week. Still think they are a great exercise, however w/ the tempo and set/rep range i feel like an absolute pussy. But i also have been told i have pecs of steel and been asked to touch them. I told the guy no he couldn't.
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@dwatson - awh come on, give the guy a little touch.
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