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PHAT: Auxiliary & Assistance Exercises?6699

sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
What's the difference between auxiliary and assistance exercises? I ask this in regards to Layne Norton's PHAT that I plan to start very soon... and yes, I have thoroughly read the article, I just can't differentiate between an auxiliary exercise and an assistance exercise, they both seem the same to me.
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bump
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G3NGHIS private msg quote post Address this user
What is P.H.A.T.?
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sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
Google "Layne Norton's PHAT Program"
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kickinchicken private msg quote post Address this user
They are the same.
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sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
Then why does he use different terms, rather than just using auxiliary or just assistance?

e.g.
Pulling Power Movement: Bent over or Pendlay rows
3 sets of 3-5 reps
Assistance Pulling movement: Weighted Pull ups
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Auxiliary Pulling movement: Rack chins
2 sets of 6-10 reps
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G3NGHIS private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by sazthetics
Google "Layne Norton's PHAT Program"


This is what you should have done to understand the terminology.
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sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
I've read it... it doesn't differentiate between the two terms
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it to mean that assistance lifts will help the main lift of the day, and then auxiliary lifts are simply lifts that will add form to your physique.
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sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
^That's what i thought but how are rack chins not an 'assistance' movement for bent over rows?

Pulling Power Movement: Bent over or Pendlay rows
3 sets of 3-5 reps
Assistance Pulling movement: Weighted Pull ups
2 sets of 6-10 reps
Auxiliary Pulling movement: Rack chins
2 sets of 6-10 reps
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shannowman private msg quote post Address this user
What does it matter? Do the work, profit.
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sazthetics private msg quote post Address this user
It matters because I have a home gym and can't do all the exercises he recommends, so I need to know which exercises to substitute with what.
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shannowman private msg quote post Address this user
I think with phat, a lot of it comes down to the principles more than worrying about specific exercises quite so much, as long as you have 2 power days with compounds and speed work on hypo trophy days, you can change in whatever exercises work for you. Like me for example, I don't like rack chins, so changed them for heavy pulldown on power day and db row on hypo day. Make it work for you man and do what you can with what you have.
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
I fail to see how Rack chins are an "assist" for a bent over row. Bent over rows are for thickness, and rack chins are for width. Unless I'm believing some weird ass broscience I think that it is an auxiliary and not an assist lift.
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@Dirkenhiemer Depending on how you do them, the plane of movement is the same in the two exercises. I try to get nearly horizontal on my rack chins. -3X
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks for proving me wrong with science ek! Much appreciated! Whenever I do Rows I do them at a 60-65 degree angle, and then rack chins at 85-90. Perhaps I'm doing Rows wrong?
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I think you're actually spot on. I do my rack chins differently than most. -3X
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Dirkenhiemer private msg quote post Address this user
Meh, I've never liked Rack Chins anyways. Perhaps I should give them a shot again. I'm getting tired of just pull ups. It just feels repetitive and pointless!
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