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When pressing, is it better to press right down to touch the bar on your chest, or to lower the bar until your upper arm is parallel to the floor? (90 degrees)

I have been debating it lately with my buddy as the concern is placing too much pressure on the AC joint and front delts when pressing off the chest...

Anyone have any thoughts/Evidence to support either case?
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i touch it to my lower chest and pause for half a second at the bottom, I don't have any evidence as such to support why i do this, I just do it as I feel my chest gets more of a workout from this ROM
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i touch it to my lower chest and pause for half a second at the bottom, I don't have any evidence as such to support why i do this, I just do it as I feel my chest gets more of a workout from this ROM


same as him, often people do partials too like coleman, people with longer arms often do partials to focus on the chest more and when they do they do the lower part of the rep so touching there chest and going half way up, if it was bad for your shoulders i doubt many people would do it. especially with the weight coleman benches although as above i have no evidence
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Have you ever watched a powerlifter bench? They have that arch instead of being flat on the bench. Give it a try, and you will see a difference... When you lay flat on the bench your elbows will go lower than 90 and below your body, but when you arch it wont happen. I don't even flat bench anymore or I start feeling too much pressure on my shoulders.
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cheers for that christf, ive noticed that and i knew they did it to make a shorter rom but i wasnt aware of the load being less on the shoulders, another thing too just keeping the bar around the nips area, and shoulder blades together. When the bar is nearer the neck like a neck press it puts a shit load of pressure on the shoulders.
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Yeah we'll it's interesting because most will tell you (as how I was taught) when DB pressing to lower your arms till they are parallel to the floor as to protect over stretch of pecs/damage to shoulders...
Yet when you BB press the general consensus it to touch the bar on your chest, which brings the arms well past parallel.

Seems to be a bit of a contradiction to me.
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More stress is put on the shoulders by stopping half way than by going full ROM. The shoulder joint is designed to load and unload. The position of most instability for the glenohumeral joint is when the humerus is in line with the body. If the bar is stopped before contact with the body, the shoulder is part way through the loading phase of the movement and in the position of least stability. Reversing the movement here places the greatest stress on the shoulders, inadequately utilizes the pressing muscles and should not be advised. Lowering the bar to touch the chest evenly distibutes the joint loads and fully activates the correct muscles needed to perform the lift safely. Using floor presses or board presses is not an apples to apples comparison- the bar or your arms stop, and the weight is able to deload. -EK
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How does this de-loading principle apply to DB press?
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It's the same thing- full range of motion or don't bother- ultimately the chances for injury are greater. Think about what position the arms must be in to have the LEAST amount of leverage, and the most amount of stress- when the arm is axactly straight out and away from the body. Stopping movement here is asking a lot of some very small muscles in the shoulder joint. -EK
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physios always say going down all the way is really bad.
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What physios? Every physical therapist I work with says full ROM on every exercise- not just this one. -EK
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Have you ever watched a powerlifter bench? They have that arch instead of being flat on the bench. Give it a try, and you will see a difference... When you lay flat on the bench your elbows will go lower than 90 and below your body, but when you arch it wont happen. I don't even flat bench anymore or I start feeling too much pressure on my shoulders.


Having that arch kind of makes it a decline bench and decline pressing activates more pec muscle, right?
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