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Does deadlift and squat activate same muscles_



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Kinda, not really.
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^^I dunno. I'd say from the nipples down, they do. -3X
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@eknight you and I are bad at reading each others sarcasm lol
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Who has two thumbs and doesn't get sarcasm? THIS GUY!!! -3X
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^^I dunno. I'd say from the nipples down, they do. -3X


Please name which muscles are activated by squats and which are activated by deadlifts.
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No. No I will not. You ask so many questions that a simple google search will clarify. I'm putting the onus on you to educate yourself. -3X
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It is not written on google as it is Static Contraction Training version I am seeking, a rather knew training method.
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Training methodology isn't going to change which levers the body is using and which muscles are pulling those levers, as long as the ROM remains the same. -3X
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The ROM is different in S.C.T.
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Never understood convoluting such a simple yet satisfying activity. For fucks sake pick shit up, put it back down, make gains, and be happy.
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@Hambo There's no info on it because static contraction training is literally made up to sell during infomercials.
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Why do I then make progress using the method.
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You're welcome.
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I can make progress using almost any routine. That's not the same as making optimal progress. -3X
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What would you consider optimal progress
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Not using contraction training. It's basically a form of isometric training and the research and empirical evidence both demonstrate that any exercise performed at one joint angle has great impact at that joint angle with very little carryover to full range movements. -3X
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Even if the carryover is not great, as a bodybuilder you are concerned with muscle size which S.C.T. gives. I am not sure I understood all that you wrote.
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Ok, try this- are you going to make better gains doing squats only halfway down or full ROM? -3X
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What is your opinion
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I'm asking for YOURS. You are the one who started a thread asking for info, and when I gave it to you, you said you didn't understand it, so I'm trying to make it understandable for you. Should I not bother? -3X
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Please go ahead
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I am logging out now.
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Not using contraction training. It's basically a form of isometric training and the research and empirical evidence both demonstrate that any exercise performed at one joint angle has great impact at that joint angle with very little carryover to full range movements. -3X


Can you please explain this as simply as possible.
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Isometric training leads to increased strength in the position that the joint is in, and a few degrees before and after that position, but that increase in strength is only there and does not carry over to the full range of motion. For example, if you bend your elbow to 90 degrees and perform an isometric contraction there, you will eventually gain strength at that exact position of the elbow and a few degrees around it- so you may have gotten stronger from 85 to 95 degrees of elbow flexion. You will NOT have increased strength through the entire range of motion of elbow flexion (0-145 degrees). You're also not increasing muscle size optimally because you're not working through that full range. In order to fully elicit a hypertrophic response, fibers must fully be stretched and contracted so they can work both concentrically and eccentrically. -3X
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Static Contraction Training is not for example pushing against immoveable thus is not isometric.
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Is this a fair definition of static contraction training?

Instead of trying to take a muscle group to failure through the use of repetitions, static contraction training teaches us to simply hold the maximum weight we can handle, in our strongest range of motion for a particular movement, for a maximum of 5-10 seconds, and not to perform any repetitions with that weight.

From http://www.brianmac.co.uk/articles/scni36a3.htm

You also understand that ANY contraction of a muscle that does not include joint movement (i.e., simply flexing a muscle and holding it or holding a weight overhead without moving it) is an isometric contraction, right? It doesn't have to be against an immoveable object- that's just one kind of isometric contraction. -3X
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Is this a fair definition of static contraction training?

Instead of trying to take a muscle group to failure through the use of repetitions, static contraction training teaches us to simply hold the maximum weight we can handle, in our strongest range of motion for a particular movement, for a maximum of 5-10 seconds, and not to perform any repetitions with that weight.

From http://www.brianmac.co.uk/articles/scni36a3.htm

You also understand that ANY contraction of a muscle that does not include joint movement (i.e., simply flexing a muscle and holding it or holding a weight overhead without moving it) is an isometric contraction, right? It doesn't have to be against an immoveable object- that's just one kind of isometric contraction. -3X


You get stronger when doing static contraction training because you progress, you become stronger at that point of movement. And thus you gain more muscle mass.
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I never said you didn't- I said it isn't optimal, because it's isometric training. Your last post proves that. -3X
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