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I came across this post "Ditch The Barbell Bench Press".

The entire articles sounds like it is broscience based off of one guys observations and opinions.

He states that decline press is useless and that dumbell bench is the best for chest development???

Last I heard was that decline bench recruits more muscle fibers than flat and incline bench according to emg tests...per @eknight

@eknight what do you think?

This is the article https://www.t-nation.com/training/ditch-the-barbell-bench-press
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I don't agree with all their articles either. And, if you polled all of their contributors, they probably have the same opinion as we do.

I think really they have such a high demand for new content they sometimes don't have the greatest quality.

Also, what's with Tc luoma only writing articles to sell supplements recently?! I miss atomic dog.
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They post a new article every single day so you tend to get some bullshit. Just figure out which contributors you enjoy. I think I only read stuff from John Romano (was in Bigger, Stronger, Faster*), CT (sometimes), Dan John, Chris Colluci, and Bill Roberts. I tend to ignore the rest, barring an interesting tittle.

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Also, what's with Tc luoma only writing articles to sell supplements recently?! I miss atomic dog.


I really miss atomic dog.
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Agree with @GrizzlyBerg, author makes a bigger difference than the site itself. SS has a bunch of crap too. Ive read some really good articles on t nation, and some stupid ones.
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I don't know. I'm not sure he's entirely incorrect about any of his assessments. What's the issue with the article? -3X
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I don't know. I'm not sure he's entirely incorrect about any of his assessments. What's the issue with the article? -3X


This...
The entire articles sounds like it is broscience based off of one guys observations and opinions.
@eknight
He states that decline press is useless and that dumbell bench is the best for chest development???
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I think dumbbell press is best for development... I'm pretty sure I saw a emg test thing.

Then again there's this more weight on barbell vs dumbbell less weight

I wouldn't say decline is useless just depends on the individuals goals.
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I'm not a huge fan of declines, but I don't suppose they're useless. Insofar as the DB press is concerned it certainly does offer the benefits he cites, as well as being a bit less stressful to the shoulder joint.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I feel like there's enough meat on the bone there to not dismiss it entirely as broscience. You'll notice I didn't say he was absolutely right, though, just that he wasn't necessarily incorrect. -3X
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I'm not a huge fan of declines, but I don't suppose they're useless. Insofar as the DB press is concerned it certainly does offer the benefits he cites, as well as being a bit less stressful to the shoulder joint.

I guess what I'm getting at is that I feel like there's enough meat on the bone there to not dismiss it entirely as broscience. You'll notice I didn't say he was absolutely right, though, just that he wasn't necessarily incorrect. -3X


I'm sure you remember the whole "upper chest" and incline vs decline vs flat bench discussion where according to the EMG tests that you posted they proved that decline was most effective and that you could not target a specific point on the chest.
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Yes. What is it that you're getting at here? -3X
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Last I heard was that decline bench recruits more muscle fibers than flat and incline bench according to emg tests


Which studies? In the ones i've read (like this) both flat and incline presses have shown a greater pec and anterior delt activity.
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