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Hello.

So i have this problem. On every pressing movements my triceps are taking over and always are getting fatigue, before my chest or shoulders.

Maybe you guys have any advice?
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That doesn't mean they're taking over. It means they're not strong enough to keep up. -3X
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^^this
they are failing first
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That doesn't mean they're taking over. It means they're not strong enough to keep up. -3X


Any suggestions maybe? Drop the direct tricep work after compounds or increase volume for them?
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Let me use my psychic powers to check on your diet, the rest of your entire routine, and your recovery and activity. I'll get back to you on that one. -3X
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Let me use my psychic powers to check on your diet, the rest of your entire routine, and your recovery and activity. I'll get back to you on that one. -3X


Diet

490g carbs
70g fat
220g protein

mainly eating oats, chicken, eggs, rice, some icecream or pancackes if macros allow me. Having two servings of fruit a day not enough vegeatbles.

currently cutting

bodyweight 106kg
hight 183cm

I do weightraining 4x a week, PPL split made for 4 days

Monday chest/shoulders/Triceps
Bench 5x3-5
OHP 3-5x6-8
Incline Bench 3x6-8
Dips 3x8
Flys 3x12
Side rises 4x12
Skullcrushers 3-5x8-10
Rope pressdowns 3-5x10-12


Tuesday Legs
Squat 5x3-5 + 2x10-12
Front squats 3x8-10
Leg press 3x15-20
SLDL 5x10
GHR 4x10
Leg curls 4x12
Calves 3x15

Thursday
Back/Biceps
Deadlifts 3-5x3-5
Bent over rows 3-5x8
DB rows 3-5x8-10
Lat pulldowns 4x10
Supinated grip Lat pd's 4x10-12
Barbell curls 3-5x8
HM curls 3-5x8-10
Facepulls 3x15

Friday
back to bench/shoulders/triceps

starting next week i begin with legs and so on.

On wednesday i do kickboxing training for 1,5 hours.
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IMO, you're doing too much pressing to begin with. I'd cut back as a first approach for a few weeks and see if your tris are able to recover better. You could also move those flyes to the start of your push day. -3X
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IMO, you're doing too much pressing to begin with. I'd cut back as a first approach for a few weeks and see if your tris are able to recover better. You could also move those flyes to the start of your push day. -3X




At this point i am too afraid to ask, but what does IMO mean.


Thanks for your response. Do you think this would be better routine for size or meybe something like Defrancos westside routine would be better. At this point size is more important. Also, by moving flyes to the start of the push day, it would be like a warmup?
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in my opinion
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Nothing wrong with taking a vid of some of your lifts either, might be able to change your form a bit.
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Your routine is fine. Moving flyes wouldn't be a warm-up, they would be the first exercise in your routine. When you go to bench afterwards, your tris will not be as fatigued as your chest. -3X
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Nothing wrong with taking a vid of some of your lifts either, might be able to change your form a bit.


Sorry, i do not have any videos at the moment.

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Your routine is fine. Moving flyes wouldn't be a warm-up, they would be the first exercise in your routine. When you go to bench afterwards, your tris will not be as fatigued as your chest. -3X


Ok, thank you. But if you would suggest any other routine, what would it be? Because, some how i do not have much fate in this one, i do not know why.
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It doesn't really matter which routine you're on if a specific strength deficit is holding you back. That strength deficit will still remain. -3X
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@eknight I know, but not including tricep weakness, what would you suggest, for me example 20yrs old, 4+ years of training exp?
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Your routine is fine. -3X
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@eknight Ok. Thank you for your time, i appreciate it.
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Do exercises that dont involve pressing like lateral raises for shoulders and flys for chest and the focus on getting tricep strength up
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No. The function of the triceps is primarily elbow extension, with a tad of shoulder extension as well. Flyes and laterals do neither of those things. -3X
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Thats like asking if turning the door handle moves the hinges.


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