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ThatTeenThatLifts private msg quote post Address this user
Hey guys just a quick question, is abdominal training necessary?

what I mean by this is is it possible to gain a nice set of abs by merely doing exersises such as flat bench, deadlifts & squats that require good core strength to perform? For this lets assume his BF is 6% (recommended BF% for pro body builders) as we are discussing the need for isolating ab exercises .

Please post your opinions below
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leanr0x private msg quote post Address this user
everyone has abs under his fat
you will see them better if you are leaner

i thought compound movements would enough for gaining core strength - injured my back
now i added core work
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Tamere02 private msg quote post Address this user
Yes. Definitely needed for a nice set of abs.
Same as how someone who wants big biceps needs to train them instead of relying only on their back work.

Also needed for general strength IMO. Yes you will build core strength by doing the heavy compounds but direct core work (not sit ups and all that prettyboy hype) will build up your core strength to minimalize the chances of your core being the weak link in your lift.
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ThatTeenThatLifts private msg quote post Address this user
@leanr0x so you say seperate an training is good even though the BF% is in the right range for showing abs?
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ThatTeenThatLifts private msg quote post Address this user
@Tamere02 what do you consider direct core work, out of interest?
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leanr0x private msg quote post Address this user
@ThatTeenThatLifts yes squats, bench, deads, ohp and chins are not enough to build a really strong core
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Tamere02 private msg quote post Address this user
@ThatTeenThatLifts
Planks in every variation possible would be a good start.
Landmines, rollouts(done properly) etc

Any exercise that has you using most of the core and bracing.

No point training in a way which has you flexing the spine (sit ups crunches etc) when a strong core is designed to maintain a neutral spine under a heavy load.
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Absolutely it's necessary. Unless you're pissed at your spine for some reason why wouldn't you do it? Being healthy and functional > looking good. -3X
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Frostshock private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by ThatTeenThatLifts
@Tamere02 what do you consider direct core work, out of interest?

Any kind of plank, wheel roll outs, hanging leg raises, leg raises, dragon flags, etc

+1 to all the above.
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oceanair private msg quote post Address this user
You shouldn't neglect any of your muscles.
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FNO private msg quote post Address this user
Listen to these guys and gals.
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ParkerHenry private msg quote post Address this user
Abs are just like any muscle group, they need stimulation for development.
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craig private msg quote post Address this user
I rarely bother because it's boring as fuck but I know i should
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Rawsteel private msg quote post Address this user
As said, giving the abs direct work is very important, not only will it have a positive effect on your big lifts it will also prevent a muscular imblance, and if you want to build muscle hitting them directly and with dynamic training is a must.
I didn't train my abs the first 2½ years in the gym because i believed in the myth that squats and deads would be enought, this resulted in a muscular imbalance and a herniated disc.
I haven't been able to deadlift since it happened and now it seems like i have to remove the squat as well since my back has given me hell the last 2 weeks.
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mikew private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by craig
Unless you're pissed at your spine for some reason why wouldn't you do it? Being


Pretty much this ^^

Much easier to say, "Well abs are made in the kitchen and I'm bulking so that's why my abs suck."
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