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To put it in context, I'm doing PHD-4.

Today was strength day and:

My buddy asked me today "why do a bicep accessory?" What main exercise is it helping?

Truthfully, I have no clue. I guess a pull.

For my main exercises I just squat, deadlift, bench, and military press. But it's kinda hard to pull of an explanation saying it helps my dead lifts.

Can anyone comment on this?

I do a back accessory with pull ups -- should that be enough bicep?
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got to have big arms man.

Just tell them that.
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To be honest a few things didn't make sense to me so I modified it.

This cycle im ditching the military press after finding out its not good on the shoulders, Switching it to joe defrancos shoulder shocker. Not sure if this will work but I like to experiment.

I also put in a 5/3/1 Bench BB row to try and get the 2:1 upper back to chest ratio.
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Do underhand pull-ups, close-grip pull-ups, or underhand bent-over rows. You'll feel it, among other muscles, in the bicep.

Inb4 how-to-train-3-heads-of-bicep
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lmao@3 heads

@cassious I've done two months of military press, I'm ready for a different exercise. However, I looked up the shoulder shocker and it seems like a hypertophy exercise. I think I might be looking at the wrong exercise. Link me what you're talking about plz

@sriram I'm going to incorporate the underhand pull pups, thanks
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i couldnt imagine not training biceps...do weighted chin ups...and straight bar curls..
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@Rememberthis Yeah it does seem like a hypertrophy exercise. Whats a good power deltoid exercise that isnt a press though?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by rememberthis
My buddy asked me today \"why do a bicep accessory?\" What main exercise is it helping?

Truthfully, I have no clue. I guess a pull.


Sadly a majority of gym goers percieve accessory work to have a BB'ing or aesthetic kick-back thus fail to see the link to other movements. Not saying it applies to you OP, just my general observation.

My case in point, training the bicep, with more emphasis on the Brachialis (Hammer Curls, Pronated Curls etc) will also act as an accessory to the Bench Press; as the brachialis acts as a stabiliser, esp. during the isometric phase (lock-out).

Hope that helps.
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@OptimusPrime beat me to it
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OptimusPrime

Sadly a majority of gym goers percieve accessory work to have a BB'ing or aesthetic kick-back thus fail to see the link to other movements. Not saying it applies to you OP, just my general observation.

My case in point, training the bicep, with more emphasis on the Brachialis (Hammer Curls, Pronated Curls etc) will also act as an accessory to the Bench Press; as the brachialis acts as a stabiliser, esp. during the isometric phase (lock-out).

Hope that helps.
Awesome insight! Thanks for this.

@cassious seriously, no clue. And after watching ek's vid on shoulder danger, I'm even more unmotivated haha. I think I'll stick with variations of the military press, switching it up by sitting down, doing it behind, etc.
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The main purpose of the biceps is to flex the elbow, BUT they're also a shoulder flexor, so think of it in terms of what @OptimusPrime said- eccentrically, they're important for many pulling movements in stabilizing the shoulder. -3X
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I train biceps 2-3x a week
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It's a good idea strengthening them so you dont injure them. Also, barbell curls hits forearms nicely which is good for same reason + bench and DL. Lastly, if you only get really really strong in OHP, DL squat and bench you will still lose in armwrestling vs untrained people. True story.
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I just think its fun and I always admired big arms so I make sure to give bis and tris adequate attention. I don't think they would respond as well without isolating, but I've never had a rountine that didn't incorporate arm isolations.
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Arms and back are the most fun to train.
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