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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
Should I continue doing a push/pull/leg hitting everything every 5th day or just do upper/lower
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
how long u training ??
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
Been training on and off for 3 years but didn't gain anything cuz my diet was shitzzz
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ReiNN private msg quote post Address this user
Personally I whould do upper lower or a push pull 4 to 5 times a week
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
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Personally I whould do upper lower or a push pull 4 to 5 times a week

That's what I was asking which one
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Damon1962 private msg quote post Address this user
I do PPL Sun-Fri, Sat. off. Do what you can handle.
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
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I do PPL Sun-Fri, Sat. off. Do what you can handle.


do you repeat like p/p/l rest p/p/l or what?
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ReiNN private msg quote post Address this user
I whould do, push pull, rest push pull rest repeat. only an idea
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
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I whould do, push pull, rest push pull rest repeat. only an idea


what bout legs
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ReiNN private msg quote post Address this user
on your push day

like
squats/ front squats
bench variations
ohp
chest dips


i like this way, i focus on getting stronger, and on frequency.
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on your push day
like
squats/ front squats
bench variations
ohp
chest dips
i like this way, i focus on getting stronger, and on frequ

i will think about ths thanks
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
still I am currently doing this right now but should i do a routine like Lyle mcdonald upper/lower which one is more beneficial while bulking
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Illadian private msg quote post Address this user
PHAT routine includes upper/ lower body just saying , why not try fat ? EK is doing PHAT
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PHAT routine includes upper/ lower body just saying , why not try fat ? EK is doing PHAT


Will it matter if i dont have impresive numbers on compound lifts i have been training on an off for three years but i gained zero for shit because I didnt know my diet was lacking so much
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You probably dont push yourself.
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You probably dont push yourself.

? eating around 2200kals will not promote any muscle growth especillly while playing basketball and baseball
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Illadian private msg quote post Address this user
um practise makes perfect , u being on and off means u havnt ur body's full potentials yet with what its got now , or if u have trainef befor hard for monthes then rested , muscle memory will be on ur side , just dun be a pussy n LIFT those weights as weeks go by u will weight more , if ur same next week as u are now then ur doing something wrong as in like @AKK said u dun push ur self to ur limits , have some one to spot u to know ur 1RM then adjusts ur weights
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
wwhats the difference between phul vs phat
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um practise makes perfect , u being on and off means u havnt ur body's full potentials yet with what its got now , or if u have trainef befor hard for monthes then rested , muscle memory will be on ur side , just dun be a pussy n LIFT those weights as weeks go by u will weight more , if ur same next week as u are now then ur doing something wrong as in like @AKK said u dun push ur self to ur limits , have some one to spot u to know ur 1RM then adjusts ur weights


Im serious and dedicated to this shit im done being skinny ass twig!!
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wwhats the difference between phul vs phat


The premise of PHAT is to do one day low-rep, and another day for that some body part for high rep.
The difference between PHAT and PHUL is that PHAT is designed to be upper/lower/rest/pull/leg/push.
PHUL follows the same rep module, but set up as upper(low rep)/lower (low rep)/rest/upper(high rep)/lower(high rep).

If you're primarily an athlete, do StrongLifts5x5. It'll provide you with a good foundation.
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Illadian private msg quote post Address this user
good then eat properly , lift weights , always test ur limits , i started working out 2 months ago , deadlifted 15 kg each side that was my max now its 70 kg each side , just coming at it n give it time , n i do recommend phat
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good then eat properly , lift weights , always test ur limits , i started working out 2 months ago , deadlifted 15 kg each side that was my max now its 70 kg each side , just coming at it n give it time , n i do recommend phat

thanks bro how many kals you bulking at
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@mattd534 DONT try and make a routine, you don't have the experience to do this. Pick any routine out there. PHAT or a PPL routine or Upper/Lower. Use a routine template already set up.

Bulking calories: take your weight in LBS and multiply by 15 then add about 400 calories. Eat with a ratio of 50/30/20. Track everything. And then adjust your calories up or down as needed. If you want to get serious as you mentioned, then you have got to track everything and hit your targets.

The routine is not very important. Any routine can give amazing results if you progress on it. Progression + surplus calories = success
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mattd534 private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks guys
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
I did PPL the last yr and it was great. I think u should try this program BEFORE moving on to PHAT as it's still a very advanced program.

I did legsA pushA pullA off LegsB PushB PullB.

LegsA main exercises squatting, legs B deadlifting.

All my 'A' days the first exercises was 3-5x5, all 'B'B days were primarily hyer work.
This was so i could focus on somewhat strength gains throughout and it worked for me.
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I did PPL the last yr and it was great. I think u should try this program BEFORE moving on to PHAT as it's still a very advanced program.
I did legsA pushA pullA off LegsB PushB PullB.
LegsA main exercises squatting, legs B deadlifting.
All my 'A' days the first exercises was 3-5x5, all 'B'B days were primarily hyer work.
This was so i could focus on somewhat strength gains throughout and it worked for me.


Thanks bro !
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
Absolutely anytime if u check out my logs u'll see the exact exercises i used on all days and that to give u an idea of what i'm talking about !!
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WinnersNeverQuit private msg quote post Address this user
My opinion would be upper lower rest repeat, more frequency but little lower volume.
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SwoleAnimal private msg quote post Address this user
If you haven't been seriously training before maybe you want to consider something like strong lifts or starting strength
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haole private msg quote post Address this user
I always make the most progress when I follow a real routine (not my own) and track my progress.

I did stronglifts 5x5 for a 12 week bulk and made the biggest gains. Its a basic routine so it was easy to follow and it wasn't over demanding on my schedule. It starts you off slow with lower weight but it makes you add more weight every day so it gives you something to look forward to and you progress. They also have a SL5x5 app so you can track your workouts.
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