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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
A bit of noob question but when training for bench press strength should my accessory work be more tricep vs shoulders, reason being my shoulders are a bit naft from heavy OHP so I'm cutting them out for 4-6 weeks
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MCarey private msg quote post Address this user
Naft haha bet the yanks are like what the fuck
I would have the accessory movement as triceps but that's just me
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tamere01 private msg quote post Address this user
I would think it depends on which muscle is the 'weak link' in the lift.
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
@MCarey haha I'm glad someone understands the word naft

@tamere01 my weak link is deffo shoulders but I want to keep on top with strength on my bench press so I was wondering do I do more tricep work to keep on top etc
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MCarey private msg quote post Address this user
Don't forget bench is also lats involved! When I worked on lats my bench went up
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
@MCarey yeah I'm still doing a lot of rows and pulldowns to equal the ratio out
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
I always find my bench is my weakest point.
I think triceps help me out the most in my bench front delts come into it a little more if u go below 90degrees and it depends on the grip you use also ??
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
How much is your bench?
How much is your paused bench?
How much is your standing OHP without kicking?
When you fail in bench, where do you fail and how?
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
@Cannonball Does ur standing OHP contribute that much to ur bench man ye ??
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
It does now when it's so weak in comparison, my shoulder strength is currently hindering my pressing strength. If your shoulder strength is on par it might not be so beneficial.
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
@Cannonball No i have a bunch of injuries with my shoulders so my OHP is not really close to my bench.
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
What is the %? One should work towards being able to OHP 66% of ones bench press. (observe the should work towards, few good bench pressers actually OHP 0.66 of their bench max)
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
@Cannonball if you mean paued bench press by pausing whilst its touched your chest my current best is 75kg x5 and my best OHP is 60kg
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
No probs there then. What about the other questions?
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
Where I start to fail is about 6-12 inches of my chest on the way up
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
On both paused and touch n go?
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
I don't do touch and go dude, just paused bench press
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
Alright, good. Either you got long arms or relatively lacking triceps. Can you put up a vid on your bench press?
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
I haven't got any vids of bench dude, I'm most likely lacking tricep strength
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
Aye. I recommend these exercises:


together with narrow grip OHP. Won't stress your shoulders all that much
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AarronStenner private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks a lot man!
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
np
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
80"reahc checkin in.
Does your grip width change dependant on whether ur pressing for strength or hyper @Cannonball ??
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
I wouldn't, but on the other hand I wouldn't bench if I was training solely for hypertrophy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonball
What is the %? One should work towards being able to OHP 66% of ones bench press. (observe the should work towards, few good bench pressers actually OHP 0.66 of their bench max)
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.66 sounds a bit high without kicking legs on OHP
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
Gives a 66 kg OHP if you bench 100, and 140 if you bench 210. Totally reasonable if you put as much effort and training into both of the lifts
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FiremanSi private msg quote post Address this user
@Cannonball where would u suggest is the best hand placement for long arm guy like myself ?
And how come u don't bench for hypertrophy ??
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
81 cm grip, max competition width, or even wider if you don't care about that.

I'd do dumbbell presses and incline bench only for higher pec activation
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adam82a private msg quote post Address this user
This 66% rule seems quite handy. Is this applicable for dumbbells also?
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Cannonball private msg quote post Address this user
I dunno, I probably have higher dumbbell shoulder press to OHP ratio than dumbbell bench to barbell bench, but I suppose that's because I have specialized somewhat in flat barbell bench
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