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Yesterday's post examined the cost of seven (7) different types of Rogue bumper plates (spreadsheet). The goal is to find a set that meets these requirements:

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1. As quiet as possible/minimize impact on floor

2. No rubber smell

3. Fit at least 6 45 lb. plates per side of barbell (i.e., width less than 2" or 50mm)

4. Accurate to stated weight within at least 1%, but hopefully 10-20 grams

5. Color-coded plates would be nice since the plates are going in the corner of the kids' play area.

6. Keep cost as low as possible

7. Weight in pounds (not KGs)

8. Stick with mostly 45s so no 35s or 55s which means a discount on a "set" is not viable

9. Purchase with credit card

10. Buy once - don't get stuck with crappy quality that needs to be upgraded in 1 year

11. But know that eventually the weights might be sold so keep re-sale value in mind

12. 450mm in height (regulation size for competition)


Rogue is less expensive than many other brands (Ivanko, Elieko, Werksan, etc.) and their customer service is top notch. But the set we examined yesterday (ten 45s and two 25s) would cost = $1,380.00 for the black Rogue LB Training 2.0 Plates and over $1,1500 for the Rogue Color LB Training 2.0 Plates. That seems like too much for someone building a home gym.

Is there a more cost effective option to meet most if not all of the above requirements?

I discovered three alternatives:

1. Titan Fitness https://www.titan.fitness/strength-equipment/weightlifting-plates-and-bars/bumper-plates/single-titan-color-elite-olympic-bumper-plate-45-lb.html

10 plates @ 45 lbs. and 2 plates @ 25 lbs = $1,150.00 + FREE shipping = $1,150.00

2. X Training Equipment https://www.xtrainingequipment.com/X-Training-Equipment-45LB-Pair-Elite-Competition-Bumpers_p_1515.html

10 plates @ 45 lbs. and 2 plates @ 25 lbs = $1,164.00 + shipping of $99 = $1,263.00

3. Wright Equipment https://wright-equipment.com/collections/bumper-plates/products/wright-color-elite-bumper-plates-v2

10 plates @ 45 lbs. and 2 plates @ 25 lbs = $1,205.00 + shipping of $107.95 = $1,312.95

Note: The Wright 45s are 2.5" wide which might be too wide for some
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By these metrics, the Titan plates are the clear winners:





- Bumper/rubber to "thud" instead of clang to reduce noise

- Plate Width: 2.15"

- Color coded

- Lowest cost ($1,150 delivered)

- Weight in pounds

- Weight Tolerance: +/- 20 grams

- Plate Diameter: 450 mm

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It is possible that the rubber smell could be a factor and this line is relatively new for Titan so there are not many reviews. So it is hard to vouch for their quality. But I'm feeling confident this is the way to go.
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Looks good. Maybe you can call them up and ask about the smell.

But frankly, at this point you're only talking about a roughly $200 difference from the Rogue ones you wanted. If you're going to spend THAT much money you might as well get the ones you really wanted. Go with the 2 less 45s to start and you'll be at the same number. Then when funds build back up down the road you get the other 2.
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At this point you're only talking about a roughly $200 difference from the Rogue ones you wanted. If you're going to spend THAT much money you might as well get the ones you really wanted. Go with the 2 less 45s to start and you'll be at the same number. Then when funds build back up down the road you get the other 2.


Whelp, if I went with the Rogues I'd probably go for the Rogue Color LB Training 2.0 Plates so the cost difference is $380.00. If the Titan plates do everything they say and don't smell bad I will be thrilled.

But I think am going to order the change plates (10s, 5s, and 2.5s) from Rogue. That is an indulgence for sure. Their stuff does look pretty, though. Sucked me in.

Biggest question of all is (when the stuff comes) will I put it to good use?? Whew - that needs to be a priority.
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What else are you looking to get? Full Power Cage? What kind of bench?
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Interested to hear about your feedback on the smell.

I have the black rogue plates and they do have that rubber smell..but its not overpowering..
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@NaturalBrawn Yes sir I will report back.

My concern is that the smell will over power the room and never go away.

It seems that less expensive bumpers (like these Yorks - https://yorkbarbell.com/product/rubber-training-bumper-plate/) have a stronger smell that is harder to get rid of. I hope that is not the case with the Titans.

My hope is that it the Titan plates will "outgas" in a short time. I plan to clean them with Pine Sol or Simple Green and/or leave them outside to facilitate the process.

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What else are you looking to get? Full Power Cage? What kind of bench?


To reduce the size/footprint I first looked at squat stands but for safety and cost reasons it made more sense to get a cage. I will explain more in a follow up thread. Lots of research went into that as well.

Bench (like the bar) is from Texas Strength Systems - http://www.texasstrengthsystems.com/products/benches/flat-bench - probably deserves a follow up thread as well.
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@mikew What about rubber coated steel?
https://yorkbarbell.com/product/g-2-rubber-olympic-plate/
Less than $60 per 45lb plate. You'll pay shipping, but it still comes out to less than $800 for the 10 45s and 2 25s.

FWIW, This is my rack. Mine is black since that was the only option at the time. Needless to say, I've gotten excellent use out of it and it's still solid and as stiff as when I first put it together. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92561w.html

Do you have a weight capacity of that bench you're getting?
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So I pulled the trigger on the Titan plates last week and they should be delivered this week.

@wannabemuscular yes, I looked at York, Troy, VTX, etc. for regular metal plates as well as rubber coated metal plates.

In general, I found three areas that gave me pause and compelled me to spend a little extra:

1. Not standard diameter height (e.g., 18" instead of 450mm/17.7"

2. Accurate to only 1% of stated weight (or even 2% in some cases)

3. This is not true of the plates you link to, but several companies make urethane coated rubber plates. The cost of the urethane coated plates was similar to bumper plates.

Cost is/was a huge factor for me so it was not exactly easy to justify the extra expense of the more 'precise' bumper plates versus the typical rubber coated plate but I figured it was better to get it right the first time.

If I was just starting out with my lifting career the plates you link to would be a good fit. But I'm getting on in years and running out of patience.

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FWIW, This is my rack. Mine is black since that was the only option at the time. Needless to say, I've gotten excellent use out of it and it's still solid and as stiff as when I first put it together. http://www.newyorkbarbells.com/92561w.html


No frills. But gets the job done and then some. I love it. Your cage is now complete with wabi-sabi aesthetic from all the gains. That's what I want too:

"...roughness, simplicity, economy, austerity, modesty, intimacy, and appreciation of the ingenuous integrity of natural objects and processes.."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

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Do you have a weight capacity of that bench you're getting?


I've used the TSS bench before (http://www.texasstrengthsystems.com/products/benches/flat-bench) it's solid. I don't know the upper limit but it's solid. It will get my bench into the upper 300s if I work hard enough.
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Plates arrived yesterday from Titan but I had to refuse delivery. They sent the wrong ones. Doh!!!!

At first I thought I ordered the wrong ones but the order was correct. Something must've gotten mixed up in the warehouse.
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Did you get a wiff of them at least?
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Ha ha ha ha ha... yes! I did, actually.

There was a strong smell but actually it was not unpleasant. More like plastic (new toy) than rubber (new tires).

I would compare it to how Sex Panther cologne might smell.

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Haha, that's hilarious!
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@mikew Just curious what you have on hand already? Maybe start a thread documenting the building of your home gym? Little by little as things arrive and come together.
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@wannabemuscular yes! I need to document everything from top to bottom and explain strategies for buying/financing the equipment.

Even picking out the right collars is challenging because there is a maze of choices ranging from $10 to $50 to much higher for calibrated/competition collars.

The top contenders are these bad boys from Amazon:

Quick Release Pair of Locking 2" Olympic Size Barbell Clamp Collar Great for Pro Training by Clout Fitness

4.8 out of 5 stars after 1,429 reviews

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HHKG3D8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1&psc=1




They were delivered today so I will be able to report back soon.
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